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Vengeance vs. Forgiveness

I've been reading recent threads on MacLeod, and the question of whether he judges others. My own question, inspired by a vid idea that is eating my brain, has to do with vengeance.

I'm not concerned with MacLeod killing Immortals for being a threat to Mortals right now. I want to look at his response when another person has harmed him or people he cares about. I welcome any form of response and discussion, up to pelting with gummy bears. But I'm going to start the conversation with a simple list of cases in which it seems to me he responded with vengeance, and times he did not.

Vengeance on:
Kanwulf for the death of Ian MacLeod
Earl of Rosemont for the massacres after Culloden
Kern for the death of Little Deer
Xavier for killing Hamza El Kahir

Forgiveness of:
Kage with personal betrayal and the deaths of the nuns and orphans
the Mortal boy who killed Tessa
possibly Methos ("I want him to live!")

a bit of both for:
Haresh Clay for the killing of Graham Ashe

Ideas? Comments?


Jun. 16th, 2006 02:32 pm (UTC)
very excellent discussion!

And I'm not totally clear on the facts of the ep, but does Grayson fall into the vengeance category? I know he's one of HL's more popular villains (or is that possibly simply one of the more popular guest stars?), and I thought he was after MacLeod and threatening those he loved, starting with Darius, who warned Duncan. But as I admitted, my facts are limited and, unhelpfully, MacGeorge's episode summaries don't include season one yet. (yeah, blame it on MacG...)
Jun. 16th, 2006 03:07 pm (UTC)
I think, if I remember correctly, Grayson was an immediate threat to mortals.
Jun. 16th, 2006 06:04 pm (UTC)
*Nods.* Grayson was attempting to lure Darius off of Holy Ground by targeting "students" of his, and he started with a mortal peace activist.
Jun. 16th, 2006 06:14 pm (UTC)
I love Grayson. I got the book Shadow of Obsession because of all the Grayson it had in it. He wasn't targeting Duncan in "Band of Brothers". His target was a mortal named Victor Paulus. Duncan was protecting Victor from him. Grayson met with Duncan on Holy Ground to discuss how Duncan could just stay out of his way.