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Vengeance vs. Forgiveness

I've been reading recent threads on MacLeod, and the question of whether he judges others. My own question, inspired by a vid idea that is eating my brain, has to do with vengeance.

I'm not concerned with MacLeod killing Immortals for being a threat to Mortals right now. I want to look at his response when another person has harmed him or people he cares about. I welcome any form of response and discussion, up to pelting with gummy bears. But I'm going to start the conversation with a simple list of cases in which it seems to me he responded with vengeance, and times he did not.

Vengeance on:
Kanwulf for the death of Ian MacLeod
Earl of Rosemont for the massacres after Culloden
Kern for the death of Little Deer
Xavier for killing Hamza El Kahir

Forgiveness of:
Kage with personal betrayal and the deaths of the nuns and orphans
the Mortal boy who killed Tessa
possibly Methos ("I want him to live!")

a bit of both for:
Haresh Clay for the killing of Graham Ashe

Ideas? Comments?


Jun. 17th, 2006 12:43 am (UTC)
I am not a hundred percent sure that Duncan actually forgave Methos - their relationship was strained and never the same from the Horsemen on.....maybe it was more a certain acceptance of the eternal enigma that is Methos than straight out forgiveness?
Jun. 17th, 2006 04:33 am (UTC)
That's the interesting part, isn't it? Certainly Mac's response was closer to forgiveness than to vengeance. But did he ever, and could he ever, forgive him?

OK, now I HAVE to go vid.
Jun. 17th, 2006 06:26 pm (UTC)
I think Methos was pretty clear that what he wanted was acceptance, not forgiveness, and I think Duncan paid him the respect of giving him that, at the end of Not to Be. In the end, the only thing that was really Duncan's to forgive was the lie that Methos told in the dojo, when he pretended not to know Cassandra, and maybe his verbal attack at the car. I don't think we ever saw evidence on the show that he had quite forgiven those more personal betrayals. But by Endgame, I think he had.